Comments on: PPG Launches Water Borne Clear Coat

By: mike

mike — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 06:22:00 +0000

Yeah that’s awesome Seamus, when you turn up the pressure the fan will become larger so maybe turn the fan width down and you can then turn up the pressure a bit more to get better flow. Also I have tried using 5% reducer with the EC700 and it looks even better then with just adding hardener. I use Global 871 reducer and between coats I let it flash 30 seconds before I go back to back.

Glad to hear you are having better success,

~Mike.

By: seamus

seamus — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:20:29 +0000

Hey mike,
tried turning up my pressure and my sides are looking better. I sprayed standox for some years and it was thick, but not as thick as ec700. My fear with the lph400 was splitting my pattern with pressure higher than 18 psi. So far at 25 psi my pattern is fine wide open and has no dry spot in the middle. My use per panel is also good( have to keep material bills looking good) so i haven’t lost transfer efficiency. With my adjustments due to your advice my jobs are looking better with each application.
Ec 700 is thick!
Seamus(richmond, va)

By: mike

mike — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 06:08:49 +0000

Hello Seamus, thanks for your comment and the info you have provided for us here. I have the EC700 clear dialed in now and my side panels as well as flat panels are looking like glass. I spray at a way higher air pressure, I use a Sata Jet 3000 RP 1.2 which is the recommended fluid tip size for the EC700 clear coat.

At first I tried to lay the first coat heavy like I wanted it to look, but found once I put the second coat on like the first, the clear would run. I use the ECH7080 hardener exclusively. So now I put my first coat on a little drier and then hammer the second coat on back to back. So as a result of tweeking my application processes, I am now very pleased with how the new clear is looking.

Thanks for your comment Seamus, I hope to see you comment again. Please let me know what you are doing with your air pressure, you might need to turn it up to say 25-30 psi.

~Mike.

By: Seamus

Seamus — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:00:27 +0000

I sprayed ec700 on a front end job on friday the 29th. I use a lph 400 with a silver air cap. the job came out great. I am putting a lot of air through the air horns. My pattern is dialed way out to achieve the same fan relative to deltron 4000. It is obvious it is really thick. I am not happy with how meaty my side panels look. After an immediate bake the panels flowed and look alright realative to oem finish. I use a 1.3 cap at 16 pounds, but i think with some fan and fluid abjustment, a really slick side finish can be achieved. I have only sprayed the clear twice, but I like it a lot more than deltron. I am interested to here others set up and results.
Seamus (richmond, va)

By: billy duggins

billy duggins — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:03:05 +0000

thnk you mike
i think mine is different than youres because my air cap says
w400-lv2 that may be the difference.

By: mike

mike — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:23:16 +0000

Hey Billy, sorry I must have missed the question. The Iwata gun I use is this one here, http://www.whosedepot.com/servlet/Detail?no=35

It works awesome for PPG Envirobase. I use the 1.3 mm fluid tip to spray the base. These are the guns PPG gives you here in Canada when a shop converts to water. Hope all is working out for you.

Thanks,

~Mike.

By: billy duggins

billy duggins — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:02:36 +0000

hey mike did u see my question about the w-400 that you use?
it is just before roberts question.
billy

By: mike

mike — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 00:11:49 +0000

Hello Robert, yeah I heard Dupont is alright but I alos heard their color matches suck. Anyways, I will e-mail you my address so you can send me one of your cool thumb guns.

Thanks and hope you are doing great,

~Mike.

By: Robert

Robert — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 00:50:00 +0000

Hi mike been using dupont WB this week seem to be easy . You keep spraying dont have to stop have to keep panels wet. all the rest of the products seem easy use also.send me your address so i can send you one of my tool Reagards Rrobert Greer

By: billy duggins

billy duggins — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:00:51 +0000

thanks mike,
I am using an LPH-400 lv4 and i am using a sata 3000hvlp with a wsb kit. I tried to use my w400 but i dont think i have the proper air cap for water. my cap looks like a conventional “rp”cap.My lph looks like it has an “x” cut into the nozzle.On youre w400 which aircap do u have a and what does it look like?again i must say thank you and look forward to chatting with u in the near future.
billy